See there Cng, not only are your alternate solutions impractical, but they show what length that you are willing to go to, just to avoid admitting you are wrong.
Why "dole out extra cash" or begin my own salvage operation, when I shouldn't have to? especially when superior solutions exist, through government?
I've seen all the episodes of the Sopranos. Waste Management was a topic in a lot of them. If there were no government agencies, and the Free Market prevailed, how could anyone prevent the Mob from keeping the Waste Management business as it's been for 100 years?
The Mob would make sure that the mom and pop waste management companies wouldn't thrive in their neighborhood. Other than the government, who would be able to take on the Mob? The new rent-a-cop agencies would all get to meet Vinnie. That's his job today.
The existing government agencies do actually catch some of the Mob for tax-evasion. Ooops! no more of that in the Free Market.
Out of curiosity, how many here pay their own rent, own their own house, or generally support themselves? How many people here have a job and even pay taxes?
I was in Bolivia a while back. It was a beautiful country. But, I went to a hardware store to fix my backpack and entered a large empty store with a guy sitting there looking at a sheet of window screen and a roll of plastic. He had lots of empty shelves. He told me that his country had been ravaged by the US, Europe, Peru, Colombia, and others because it had mineral resources like Tin. I noticed the good roads - to the tin mines. The country was not growing anything - the fields were all barren.
Then, I got to Santa Cruz. There the people were prosperous. They had Suzuki dirt bikes, boom boxes, supermarkets, plenty of food from the street vendors, etc. I found that Jose who lived up there on the mountain was responsible for the prosperity. The coca leaves came from Peru. They were converted into cocaine at Jose's establishments. Then, the cocaine was smuggled on the train I took across the border into and thru Brazil to Rio.(I have another story about that train ride.) Jose was a local who put together a free enterprise to get out of poverty. If you had an illness, you would go and see the Godfather. He'd have you helicoptered to a hospital in Peru if needed. He provided all the welfare needed by that whole city - fairly large and attracting many more starving Bolivians daily.
It was such a contrast. The local police all knew the score. This was the only place in their country that they could work. It was a functioning, relatively happy, place. I had some very good ribs at a restaurant there - only Ramen in the rest of the country.
I've always rented. When I got married and got my first kid, I realized that I couldn't just continue my free and easy independent life. So, I got a job in the private sector - no academia. I received a $20k bonus the second year and pulled together enough for the 20% down payment. Then, instead of $1500 rent, I paid $1650 for the 30 year mortgage. I kept working for 7 years paying that $1650. It was tough.
It was a lot of worry and pressure to be sure I had a job. I don't recommend this until you're done working-till-you've-collected-enough-to-travel approach. There are certainly other approaches - don't get me wrong - I'm just telling my side of the story. Travel and exotic lands were what I found interesting and motivating to get me to work each day while I was young. Then, family life became the motivator.
I sold the house and bought 60 acres near Yosemite - with a double-wide trailer on it. No more mortgage. The 60 acres of forest provides plenty of wood for heat. I collect disability because I'm a Type I diabetic. I paid into Disability for many years. I've been retired for 11 years.
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You need to watch more House, everybody lies. Your vision of a society without government is sorely lacking in the understanding of human nature.
Why "dole out extra cash" or begin my own salvage operation, when I shouldn't have to? especially when superior solutions exist, through government?
and the Free Market prevailed, how could anyone prevent the Mob from keeping the Waste Management business as it's been for 100 years?
The Mob would make sure that the mom and pop waste management companies wouldn't thrive in their neighborhood.
Other than the government, who would be able to take on the Mob?
The new rent-a-cop agencies would all get to meet Vinnie. That's his job today.
The existing government agencies do actually catch some of the Mob for tax-evasion. Ooops! no more of that in the Free Market.
store with a guy sitting there looking at a sheet of window screen and a roll of plastic. He had lots of empty shelves. He told me that his
country had been ravaged by the US, Europe, Peru, Colombia, and others because it had mineral resources like Tin. I noticed the good roads - to the tin mines. The country was not growing anything - the fields were all barren.
Then, I got to Santa Cruz. There the people were prosperous. They had Suzuki dirt bikes, boom boxes, supermarkets, plenty of food from the street vendors, etc. I found that Jose who lived up there on the mountain was responsible for the prosperity. The coca leaves came from Peru. They were converted into cocaine at Jose's establishments. Then, the cocaine was smuggled on the train I took across the border into and thru Brazil to Rio.(I have another story about that train ride.) Jose was a local who put together a free enterprise to get out of poverty. If you had an illness, you would go and see the Godfather. He'd have you helicoptered to a hospital in Peru if needed. He provided all the welfare needed by that whole city - fairly large and attracting many more starving Bolivians daily.
It was such a contrast. The local police all knew the score. This was the only place in their country that they could work. It was a functioning, relatively happy, place. I had some very good ribs at a restaurant there - only Ramen in the rest of the country.
independent life. So, I got a job in the private sector - no academia. I received a $20k bonus the second year and pulled
together enough for the 20% down payment. Then, instead of $1500 rent, I paid $1650 for the 30 year mortgage.
I kept working for 7 years paying that $1650. It was tough.
It was a lot of worry and pressure to be sure I had a job. I don't recommend this until you're done
working-till-you've-collected-enough-to-travel approach. There are certainly other approaches - don't get me wrong -
I'm just telling my side of the story. Travel and exotic lands were what I found interesting and motivating to get me
to work each day while I was young. Then, family life became the motivator.
I sold the house and bought 60 acres near Yosemite - with a double-wide trailer on it. No more mortgage.
The 60 acres of forest provides plenty of wood for heat. I collect disability because I'm a Type I diabetic.
I paid into Disability for many years. I've been retired for 11 years.